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Jul 14 2014

Podcast: Katharine with a side of Bette!

In this special edition of the podcast, Nathaniel welcomes two Katharine Hepburn buffsNick Davisand安妮玛丽 Kellyto talk about their (shared) first Actress Obsession.NaturallyKate the Greatisn't the only diva that finds her way into the conversation.Expect supporting roles or cameos: Bette Davis, Cary Grant, Barbara Stanwyck, Tennessee Williams, Deborah Kerr, Spencer Tracy, Audrey Hepburn, George Cukor and more...

You can listen at the bottom of the postordownload the conversation on iTunes.Continue the conversation in the comments.

00:00 Intro.Plus Middle School drama: Hilariously "intense" early obsessions
13:00 Types, Genres, andSuddenly Last Summer
17:00 Her autobiography and films she loathed likeDragon Seed
22:00 Chemistry and co-stars
33:00 Revisiting unsatisfying movies -- raise a cocktail to this peculiar cinephile habit
40:00 The Spinster & The Magic Penis
47:00 Bette Davis and why we compare them.Silliness before the sign off.

Further Reading
Nick's Hepburn Oscar Profile
A Year With Kate:Pat & Mike
A Year With Kate:Dragon Seed
A Year With Kate:Christopher Strong
Me: Stories of My Life(Book)
The Making ofthe African Queen(Book)
Alex Von Tunzelmann & Self Styled Siren(Twitter)

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Listened to this on my way to work this morning.Brilliant as usual!Thanks so much, guys.My favorite bits were the magical penises, fizzy cocktails of entertainment and Anne Marie's and Nick's random childhood traumas :)

July 14, 2014 | 未注册的批评家Carlos

This is one of the best episodes yet.Not only because of Anne Marie's comment on the life affirming possibilities of Burt Lancaster's magic penis, but because it's a true actressexual exercise in the ouvre of Katherine Hepburn, a performer whose acclaim masks the divisiveness of the actual work.

If I can put on my two little cents, I would very much like to see more special podcasts like this one, focused on the movies through the prism of an actress's career and abilities, rather then movies as they premiere, be it festivals, or Oscar season, or just the big release of the week.We don't even have to stick simply to classic Golden Age actresses!I think Kathleen Turner would be a great actress to feature in one of those, or Winona Ryder, or TFE favorites like Laura Dern and Laura Linney.

Now, down to actressing:

I was introduced to Kate Hepburn with A Long Day's Journey Into Night, and shortly after The African Queen.I loved her in both movies.I later saw her in The Glass Menagerie (a TV adaptation of Tennessee William's classic), which I still liked, but not over the moon about it.Little Women followed and then Lion in the Winter, and from that two-punch on I was Team Hepburn all the way.When I visited Chinon Castle in the Loire Valley, I spent the whole day quoting from the movie, so I can relate to Anne Marie's monologuing on the elevator.

Audrey Hepburn is lovely and a much better actress than people give her credit.I know it's not a good time to say so, coming right out of the week in which people were forced to sit through My Fair Lady (not her shiniest moment, let's put it mildly, with the lip-syncing controversy and all), but I stand by happily as an apologist!:)

I have very little knowledge of Bette Davis' filmography, but of what I have seen, All About Eve is the be all end all of bettedavising.It should be a verb actually.Whenever someone shows up, get's right in your face, roughs you up, ties you down, kisses you, steals your wallet, smacks your bottom, winks and leaves, and you love them for it, it should be called bettedavising.I wish I got bettedavised more often!

And Barbara Stanwyck!!I hold my fire on that one, in hopes Anne Marie truly does follow this year's work with a Stanwyck retrospective!I propose her filmography + Thorn Birds (guilty pleasure of mine).

July 14, 2014 | 未注册的批评家Carmen Sandiego

She's so beautifull i Like...It :)

July 14, 2014 | 未注册的批评家Place2

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July 14, 2014 | 未注册的批评家Vipin

Love this.Suddenly Last Summer to the top of my queue.

July 14, 2014 | 未注册的批评家eurocheese

Wow, that second picture.How did that miss the head dress discussion?

July 14, 2014 | 未注册的批评家亨利


卡门圣迭戈 - 我承认我是因为不熟悉Stanwyk的片目,你是与戴维斯的。但是,这实际上是吸引力。谁知道?2015年是蒸馏室5个月的时间。


July 14, 2014 | 未注册的批评家安妮玛丽


July 14, 2014 | 未注册的批评家意志^ h


July 14, 2014 | 未注册的批评家迈克在加拿大


我真的爱系列。我一直是一个迷,即使她从来都不是我绝对喜欢和你说的回顾她的电影按时间顺序并给予不同的角度对她作为一个女演员和当某些她的众所周知的特点首先出现了或怎么她 refined them to work for her.





罗莎琳德·拉塞尔 - 她可能已经开始了米高梅对玛娜·洛伊威胁,但她成为了一个完全形成鲜明明星谁一旦她打到前很少走回支持,并在戏剧电影大多工作。她又做了一些小的电视亮相,但与他们她总学分53,近乎完美减去。


苏珊·海沃德,四个的一个最强相似戴维斯·斯坦威克,克劳福德等。不算uncredited位和短裤,她有57个学分。不像其他人,甚至罗兹谁在聚光灯配角开始,她在她的方式顶端硬的方式,通过位,小配角,女友角色则B电影的女主角终于星斑,即使在她搬到明星 supporting roles it was always in quality productions, even Valley of the Dolls train wreck that it is was a big budget affair.

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July 15, 2014 | 未注册的批评家joel6

joel6 - 感谢洞察力:)

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July 16, 2014 | 未注册的批评家LadyEdith

圣FranCinema - 谢谢你。这意见是对的锦上添花my周。



July 16, 2014 | 未注册的批评家安妮玛丽

非常有趣的聆听了这一点。像尼克,凯瑟琳WAS电影给我,让大约在同一时间,我进入电影为严肃的艺术形式,我陷进去凯瑟琳·赫本,我认为(知道)我可能会永远是极力保护她甚至我承认 her limitations and foibles.但是,这有一个“最爱”任何人的乐趣的一部分。

但她真的是在很多方面的异常。我爱安妮玛丽指出,没有凯特流派这就是为什么我总是别提有多惊讶,我在考虑太多奥斯卡多么爱她,她从来没有在奥斯卡最佳影片,因为她做了轻喜剧,浪漫喜剧,滑稽喜剧,直 drama, relationship drama, camp drama, quasi-action films and even as I love her sometimes it's as difficult to explain why she's GREAT in a movie and why she's not great, but even when she's not great she's so fascinating to watch.有趣的是她不是一个点 actor in visual films, because on the flipside - bad movies and all - I think she has a good track record with well written films.Like even if the movies didn't always turn out well, you can see the script was trying for something new, or fresh.

But, God, I was obsessed with Katharine.Consumed ever biography, autobiography she ever featured in to read.I think I've been unable love any other star from that era as much just because I feel like I'd be betraying Kate.Childhood obsessions are so weird.

July 16, 2014 | 未注册的批评家AndrewK

They might not be the obvious choices, but I would like to suggest for the next series two actresses whose brilliance has sadly been forgotten--Jennifer Jones and Greer Garson.Since childhood, they have been my two favorites.Jennifer would have been much more famous had she not been so private, and her list of classics and acclaimed films stands on its own.She had an astonishing versatility, and an ethereal presence on screen.Greer's filmography shows a long list of steadfastly heroic roles, but no matter now similar the parts, she always brought an amazing intelligence and inherent elegance to everything she did.Today's audiences need to know what they're missing, because these ladies' legacies deserve recognition.

安妮玛丽, this has been a staggering achievement...can't wait to read your book of this series!

July 16, 2014 | 未注册的批评家brookesboy

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