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Jan 03 2019

Was 1993 the Best "Best Supporting Actor" Lineup Ever?

To celebrate the 25th anniversary of a rather amazing Oscar lineup, here'sBen Miller...

There have been several iconic Oscar nominee lineups throughout the years.Best Actor1967, Best Actress1939, Best Director1975...a wholly fearsome lineup comes around but once every couple of decades or so.One of them is celebrating its 25-year anniversary this season: the 1993 lineup for Best Supporting Actor.

Before we get to the nominees, look at who just missed the lineup...

Sean Penn was nominated for a Golden Globe for his crooked lawyer inCarlito’s Way, but that performance has not aged well.At the time it was a “you have arrived” nomination, as that was the first major nomination Penn had received up to that point, despite being a critical darling for some time before that.He also received a nomination from the Chicago Film Critics Association, but that was about it.

On the prestige front, Ben Kingsley inSchindler’s Listwas the closest thing to a missed opportunity.He acts as an audience surrogate to the atrocities committed, as well as the face of righteousness when viewing Oskar Schindler’s moneymaking schemes.Critically, his snub might seem the most egregious.


The most iconic of the mainstream supporting actor roles in '93, which strangely receivedzeroprecursor attention, was Val Kilmer inTombstone。The film itself is almost a legend in mismanagement, but despite its missteps, Kilmer tunes up Doc Holiday and sends him throughout the narrative with zippy one-liners and an undeniable presence.Kilmer has had a sticky relationship with awards bodies, but the exclusion of Doc Holiday is appalling

…until you see the actual lineup.

最佳男配角 1993

  • Leonardo DiCaprio,What’s Eating Gilbert Grape?
  • Ralph Fiennes,Schindler’s List
  • Tommy Lee Jones,The Fugitive
  • John Malkovich,In the Line of Fire
  • Pete Postlethwaite,In the Name of the Father

I mean, who do you kick out of there?

Fellating枪屏幕前不久詹姆斯·弗兰科认为它

Let’s start from the “bottom” with Malkovich.You need to put his career in perspective at this point as he was on quite the run.From 1984-93, he madePlaces of the Heart(his first Oscar nomination),The Killing Fields,the huge TV movie version ofDeath of a Salesman, The Glass Menagerie, Empire of the Sun, Dangerous Liaisons, Shadows and Fog, Of Mice and Men, andAlive。Whatever you think of the film itself, a few things to remember aboutIn the Line of Fire: Clint Eastwood was on a career resurgence followingUnforgiven, Malkovich’s role was memorable and required a bunch of gimmicky disguises and shouting, plus the film made over $100 million and was a major box office hit (7th for the year).There is no way he wasn’t getting nominated.

Postlewaite might be the least-seen of the nominees (he missed the Globe lineup before the Oscars), but if you have had the privilege of seeingIn the Name of the Father, his nomination is undeniable.They say the hardest position in basketball is being a teammate to LeBron James.If that’s true, then the hardest position in film is to be a co-star to Daniel Day-Lewis.You can count on one hand how many times Day-Lewis has been upstaged in a film.Postlewaite more than holds his own, never Day-Lewis's physical equal, but overpowering him regardless.Any other year, he might have pulled off a win.

宝宝的第一个奥斯卡奖!亚博主页The other three nominees are all-timers in the history of Best Supporting Actor.

DiCaprio’s performance is that classic “this could go very wrong” performance, but he handles the disability role with the subtlety, precision, and heart needed to make it all sing.The nomination both announced his arrival and foreshadowed his near-future superstardom.Despite DiCaprio arriving quickly on the Oscar scene, it still took another 20+ years to get him the Oscar many felt he deserved in 1993.

Fiennes is the winner in my book.Humanizing evil is not a new idea, but Fiennes walked such a fine line, toying with being a better man while refusing to apologize for his inherently evil nature, and he walked away with the film.In addition to being the runaway Best Picture winner,Schindler’s Listwas the 9th biggest hit of the year and Fiennes was its MVP.25 years on, it’s still criminal that Fiennes didn’t win his Oscar right then.He's still waiting.

The eventual statue went to the only performance that wasn’t really supporting.Jones has been characterized as Hollywood’s favorite curmudgeon, but the role of Deputy Samuel Garrard perfectly suits his style.The Fugitiveacts as a true two-hander, with the film split between the titular fugitive in Harrison Ford and Jones hot on his trail.Jones took home a bushel of precursor awards, with the Academy ultimately crowning him as well.


The best thing about this shortlist is its longevity.None of these performances have aged badly, none of the actors have shamed themselves, and the films themselves are impressive.If any of these performances had walked away with the statue, the legacy of the lineup is unchanged.

Every category has its signature year, and 1993 might beitfor Best Supporting Actor.25 years on, it has aged like a fine wine.Let’s hope 2018's eventual lineup will age just as well.

What say you, Oscar buffs?Do you think 1993 is the best Supporting Actor lineup ever?

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Nope, the exclusion of Kilmer remains appalling.Kilmer should have won.He claimed a roles that many legendary or great actors have done excellently (even Dennis Quaid did a great job around the same time) and made the role synonymous with him, as the definitive version.

And while Sean Penn may be a wildly overrated tool, Carlito's Way is probably his best and least mannered performance.Not buying this "It hasn't aged well" speil.It's one of his few performances that has aged well.


如果您在Philidelphia配套考虑丹泽尔·华盛顿,那么他应该在这个阵容也是如此。但他的交界共同牵头与汉克斯

方式更好的选项,今年比一些最终的提名,甚至获奖者。约翰·马尔科维奇的卡通心理远不值得提名基尔默,宾夕法尼亚和华盛顿的。我认为,这三个都是比汤米·李·琼斯......在一个流派角色的优良性能更好,但基尔默,宾夕法尼亚和华盛顿都有了更加困难的部分发挥。

我想摆脱马尔科维奇和汤米·李·琼斯。迪卡普里奥,费因斯和Posthelthwaite的罚款。我会选择佩恩在排队了华盛顿,因为边界铅的事情。和基尔默获胜。

这是一个很好的阵容,但可能已经好多了。

January 3, 2019 | 未注册的批评家山姆

我一直是一个吸盘2002年(即使艾德·哈里斯有点多),我认为2010年将年龄真的很好,回头深情上。

我知道为什么1993年被视为这种方式,但我不是感到兴奋琼斯或马尔科维奇。

此外,佩恩是米利托之路辉煌。

January 3, 2019 | 未注册的批评家迈克在加拿大

这是这一类别,一个那也太经常充斥着多种令人失望的被提名人恒星的一年。它不知道这是最好的阵容不断 - 但我要说没有一套被提名人,因为这可以用这一套竞争。我一直以为·费因斯应该赢,但已经重新吉尔伯特葡萄最近我现在希望他和迪卡普里奥已经追平。

现在我想这一类的20世纪90年代,和坚赢得了法律和奥斯蒙特和巡航,只是 - 啊。我热情地一个团队重新法:这一年,但无论是他还是不是,那坚胜 - 唉。

January 3, 2019 | 未注册的批评家ScottC

今年是会得到如此接近有这样一个真棒最佳男配角入围名单!

亚当·德赖弗
萨姆·埃利奥特
理查德E.格兰特
迈克尔B.约旦
史蒂芬·元

但它不会。

January 3, 2019 | 未注册的批评家德文d

我会踢出来琼斯肯定的!这是一个耻辱基尔默没有提名。

January 3, 2019 | 未注册的批评家Evangelina

不马尔科维奇的忠实粉丝,甚至是琼斯。究竟是谁却是伟大的,但我不能帮助,但不温不火的感觉对他的胜利(因此性能笑),因为其他三个是如此恒星。

虽然他们是超过惊人的呀,提升这个阵容到所有的时间行列。迪卡普里奥从来没有设法这么...礼貌却好像有点机械。他是完美的,诚实拉过的最难的事情之一为演员做感性和机智。我思韦特,他沿着戴 - 刘易斯电影的巨大锚(其实我拿皮特因为这演员阵容的MVP)的huuuuge风扇。他的权力的电影,没有以往任何时候都高的命令屏幕。

但是,是的,奥斯卡属于费恩斯在性能的所有定时器。从口音到身体语言,他的方式炒热这个怪物人类(而不实际要求的同情),这一切都没有。大师级的作品。

January 3, 2019 | 未注册的批评家亚历克斯·d

伟大的写了1993年!我同意这是一个了不起的类别的一年。我认为琼斯是比·费因斯更好,虽然。费因斯是非常好的 - 但有actorliness的关于他的一些非对话场景的表现点点。本金斯利具有这样膜的边缘。但琼斯(谁,我同意,是更多的是铅)完全提供他的电影。我也喜欢在马尔科维奇火线狙击。我承认:我还没有看到迪卡普里奥和思韦特的表演。

当我想起伟大的最佳男配角年,1976年是迅速想到另外一个:

内德·贝蒂,网络
市民Meredith,洛基
劳伦斯·奥利弗,男子马拉松
贾森·罗巴兹,惊天大阴谋
伯特扬。洛基

而且,事实上,他们可能已经取代那些有:

罗伯特·杜瓦尔,网络
哈尔布鲁克,惊天大阴谋
零莫斯特尔,该阵线
理查德·普赖尔,银条
卡尔天气,洛基

它仍然是一个很大的范畴!

January 3, 2019 | 未注册的批评家爱德华·L.

这绝对是我最喜欢的最佳男配角的年份之一。每场演出,甚至马尔科维奇,很有趣,值得一试。我很乐意看到这样的阵容纳入女配角的SmackDown的剩余可用年继续减少下去。通常男配角是最无聊的作用类别,但有一对夫妇几年每过十年,像93和99,是值得探讨的深入。

January 3, 2019 | 未注册的批评家BJ

我一直有一个情有独钟1999年组。这是真的,授予迈克尔·凯恩,他在“苹果酒屋的规则”的作用可能变得糟糕很多人到一年,但汤姆·克鲁斯(木兰),迈克尔·克拉克·邓肯(绿色英里),裘德·洛的阵容质量 (The Talented Mr.里普利)和哈利·乔·奥斯蒙(第六感)不可否认......至少对我来说。

January 3, 2019 | 未注册的批评家ajnrules

我撞琼斯或Postlewaite为麦康纳在年少轻狂

January 3, 2019 | 未注册的批评家迈克尔·ç

迪卡普里奥和费因斯,实际上我不是特里bly fond of this one.The Kingsley snub is dumbfounding.

January 3, 2019 | 未注册的批评家Andrew Carden

This is a good field, but my vote goes to your "worst" John Malkovich.He's brilliant.

Two other years come to mind:

1941: James Gleason, Sidney Greenstreet, Charles Coburn, Donald Crisp and Walter Brennan.Five of Hollywood's finest character actors at the top of their game.

2007: Casey Affleck, Hal Holbrook, Philip Seymour Hoffman, Javier Bardem, Tom Wilkinson.They all deserved to win.

January 3, 2019 | 未注册的批评家ken s

That year my lineup would be

Fiennes
Kingsley
DiCaprio
Postlewaite
Harvey Keitel for The Piano

Am I the only one who think that Keitel is outstanding in Jane Campion's masterpiece?The cleaning the piano with my clothes scene: oh lord!

Fiennes will always be my winner of that year!What he did here only Glenn Close in Fatal Atraction / Dangerous Liaisons, Gary Oldman in Bram Stocker's Dracula, Brando in Apocalypse Now and Bette Davis in Whatever Happen to Baby Jane?did on the same level before him!

January 3, 2019 | 未注册的批评家Richard

1993 is a great line up the winner is wrong but Sam Neill in The Piano would've been good,Burgess Meredith for Grumpy Old Men,Pierce Brosnan in Mrs Doubtfire,Joseph Mazzello for Shadowlands,Sean Penn in Carlito's Way

January 3, 2019 | 未注册的批评家markgordonuk

This list is all the more incredible given that Ben Kingsley, Sean Penn (Carlito's Way), Laurence Fishburne (I remember him as supporting in What's Love Got To Do With It) and Johnny Depp (Benny & Joon).

And there are others that would qualify as "Oscar-worthy", plus a bunch of great performances.

January 3, 2019 | 未注册的批评家Me

That was a great lineup and Fiennes should have won.

Agree with those who brought up 1999 and what an overall great bunch of nominees that was - only to give the gold to Michael Caine, who gave the only lackluster performance of the bunch.I still think Law or Osment should have gotten it.

January 3, 2019 | 未注册的批评家Rob

We had the big fold-out ballot that Premiere magazine provided each year and, before the winner’s name was announced, my dad had already started marking Ralph Fiennes with a red pen.He was that confident that Fiennes would win.Obviously, Tommy Lee Jones emerged victorious (‘I’m not really bald’), but I still have that fold-out ballot and Fiennes still has a tiny red speck next to his name.

January 3, 2019 | 未注册的批评家Patrick T

By the way, how is it possible that Ralph Fiennes doesn't have an Oscar by now?It's just criminal.He's such a versatile actor: from his hilarious performances in comedies like Hail, Ceasar!& The Grand Budapest Hotel to his romantic lead turns in movies like The End of the Affair to his spellbinding work in films like A Bigger Splash and In Bruges......he can do it all.

January 3, 2019 | 未注册的批评家Rob

Surprised about any criticism of Penn in Carlito's Way (Pacino again incredible and again overlooked/wrongly criticized/underappreciated), tho even more surprised with the confidence displayed in questioning him as an actor.As in Scrubs, "Mistaaaaaaaaaaaaake".

In The Line Of Fire, like many others in 93, is a great film.Intelligently written and tautly directed.Eastwood is part of a ridiculous crew of non-nominated leads that year.


Also surprised people see Jones as a lead.Not crazy, but clearly the film is about Ford.One may as well call Postlethwaite a lead, no?The film is centered around that relationship.

And about Keitel...he's clearly lead and I'd say as lead as Hunter.山姆 Neil would probably round out the top 10.Crazy top 10.


Btw, Denzel is really the central character in Philadelphia.No borderline.

January 3, 2019 | 未注册的批评家Me

2001 is my favorite modern BSA lineup.All the actors are supporting (although Del Toro went lead at SAG it's a true ensemble).I would have been happy to see any of them win (Bridges was my personal favorite) except Phoenix, and that wasn't really a bad nomination, just not as good as the other 4.

I'd have given the Oscar in '93 to Fiennes or Postlethwaite over Jones, but this isn't a bad win.

January 3, 2019 | 未注册的批评家Sawyer

Sorry - meant 2000 not '01.

January 3, 2019 | 未注册的批评家Sawyer

Me: I think Fishburne is definitely a lead in What's Love Got to Do With It.There's simply no story without Ike - and he's in it loads.Re: Jones in The Fugitive I lean lead (I'm pretty sure we would say lead without a doubt if his tole was played by, oh, Susan Sarandon) and I feel the film is almost as much about Gerard as it is about Kimble.

January 3, 2019 | 未注册的批评家爱德华·L.

Worth mentioning that, despite the quality of the five performances, Tommy Lee Jones was a total lock for the win.

January 3, 2019 | 未注册的批评家Peggy Sue

Ben, thanks for the fun article.Strong lineup that year, and I agree that Fiennes should have won in a squeaker over DiCaprio.

我同意肯是关于2007年......最好的年巴尔登,阿弗莱克,霍夫曼,霍尔布鲁克和威尔金森曾经之一。但随后2007年给了我们,也许我们最好戴•刘易斯,歌迪亚,巴尔登和斯温顿曾演技获奖四方。

January 3, 2019 | 未注册的批评家ERICB

If you consider Denzel Washington in Philadelphia supporting, then he should be in this line up as well.但他的交界共同牵头与汉克斯

华盛顿竞选领先费城。

January 3, 2019 | 未注册的批评家/ 3rtful

肯,ERICB - 我不知道2007年,你们。阿弗莱克是铅铅铅和霍夫曼是一种基本在一个沉闷的电影。

虽然,霍尔布鲁克给了所有的时间我最喜欢的配角的表演之一,所以这就提出了很多。

January 3, 2019 | 未注册的批评家迈克在加拿大

我撞琼斯或Postlewaite为麦康纳在年少轻狂

这就是为什么我们不能有好东西。边远地区宾博是一个小丑。当你意识到他的复出故事永远不会被授予任何人,但白色的家伙,别人谁到底应该从未赞助作为一个电影明星,开始与他的奥斯卡胜利是毛。

January 3, 2019 | 未注册的批评家/ 3rtful

1994年也产生了很大支持雅图的阵容,这本来是空前伟大的阵容之一,一个或两个替代品。

马丁·兰道,艾德伍德
塞缪尔杰克逊,低俗小说
加里辛尼斯,阿甘
查茨·帕明特里,子弹结束百老汇
保罗斯科菲尔德,竞猜节目

I would’ve replaced Scofield with his costar John Turturro, and since I’m lukewarm on Sinise (and am not fond of Forrest Gump in general), I would’ve replaced him with Jean-Louis Trintignant for Red (though he’s arguably a co-lead).我绝对崇拜其他三个提名。

January 3, 2019 | 未注册的批评家埃德温

我不喜欢MM的胜利了。

January 3, 2019 | 未注册的批评家markgordonuk

@再次3rtful“黑”牌。你总是批评似乎从来没有满意的东西。

January 3, 2019 | 未注册的批评家RDF

埃德温:我喜欢你的思维回复:1994年......除了我认为Trintignant绝对是一个领先。把他和杰克逊在领先特拉沃尔塔,休·格兰特和特伦斯·斯坦普,然后支持可兰道,Palminteri,特托罗,吉姆·布罗德本特在子弹结束百老汇和任文·雷姆斯和布鲁斯·威利斯低俗小说。迪斯科!

January 3, 2019 | 未注册的批评家爱德华·L.

@rdf

别烦我已婚白人妇女。

January 3, 2019 | 未注册的批评家/ 3rtful

费因斯应该赢得本;琼斯会赢得林肯和一切都会是正确的与世界接轨。

January 3, 2019 | 未注册的批评家阿罗

@爱德华·L:这已经有一段时间,因为我已经warched红,但我不记得Trintignant的作用是明显的领先这么多的极限情况。我肯定会是记错了,虽然。

我这样做,但是,坚持由塞缪尔杰克逊作为一个配角。他是在屏幕上约三分之一的电影(甚至更少),并且仅在两个场景(当然,它们是两个完全长,完全标志性的场景)的中心焦点。我了解他是一个共同牵头的说法,但对我来说更的主导支撑性能。合奏,这使得放置暧昧内或至少一个共引线。

January 3, 2019 | 未注册的批评家埃德温

费因斯是遥遥领先的最好的一群,而在93年应该已经赢得了奥斯卡奖。

此外,琼斯是一个联合领导93年。华盛顿是一个领先同一年。杰克逊是一个联合领导在94年。奥斯蒙特是在99年领先。阿弗莱克至少是一个联合领导在07年。看到一个模式?这是很难令人震惊类诈骗一年后爱用这样一年的阵容。(现在76年,这是真正的支持演员的坚实的阵容)。

January 3, 2019 | 未注册的批评家马里科

我要护着TLJ在亡命天涯。我不认为任何其他演员将带来尽可能多的角色,他做到了。他应该被放置在铅类,但他是了不起的。

January 3, 2019 | 未注册的批评家现金

埃德温:公平意见。Tringtignant需要一段时间在红转起来,但一旦他已经到了,他主要为影片的其余部分。但我倾向于将人们的铅是相当放松。我觉得电影经常有两个或三个主要角色(而不仅仅是网络!)。杰克逊 - 嗯,我已经领先振荡之间,多年来支持他。我承认,他从几个低俗小说大片的缺失。极限情况,我会同意。

现金:我与你上!

January 3, 2019 | 未注册的批评家爱德华·L.

TOMEI4EVA

January 3, 2019 | 未注册的批评家萝拉

我真的很喜欢2000年:
本尼西奥·德尔·托罗,“交通”
杰夫·布里奇斯,“竞争者”
威廉·达福,“吸血鬼的阴影”
阿尔伯特·芬尼,“永不妥协”
华金凤凰,“角斗士”

让我们回到更早的1985年:
阿米奇和罗伯茨都不错;布兰道尔和希基是伟大的;和长廊是一个典型的以有史以来最好的最后的一个场景。
唐·阿米奇,“茧”
克劳斯马利布兰道尔,“走出非洲”
威廉·希基,“普里齐的荣誉”
罗伯特长廊,“锯齿状边缘”
埃里克·罗伯茨,“暴走列车”

我有一个情有独钟,20世纪60年代,以其高情感和尖锐人物刻画,例如,1961年:
乔治·查基里斯,“西区故事”
蒙哥马利·克利夫特,“审判在纽伦堡”
彼得·福克,“奇迹的口袋”
杰基格利森,“江湖浪子”
乔治C.斯科特,“江湖浪子”

January 3, 2019 | 未注册的批评家adri

谁将你踢出去吗?That's easy;- Tommy Lee Jones!This was one of the 'what were they thinking' awards.I am still baffled that the Fugitive was even nominated for Best Picture.Totally overrated.

January 3, 2019 | 未注册的批评家Bette Streep

I find it so interesting that 4 of these 5 were from major box office hits!

I remember being a nerd in 1st grade and wanting Leo.The heart wants it wants.A teacher I often talked to wanted "the psycho guy".

January 3, 2019 | 未注册的批评家Jakey

Edward L;

Again, you're definitely not saying anything stupid.I get it.I haven't seen What's Love Got To Do With It in a long time.But I think you can make that comment about many -if not any- major supporting character.

Take The Devil Wears Prada.Certainly, Streep is a legit lead.She's also legitimately the second character.Comparing her to Blunt, it's hard to see them as the same.Then again, Hathaway is clearly the main character and it's hard for me to compare the two of them.

Now, I'm not making a definitive statement on where she should be.But what I can definitely assert is that Bassett is the main character.Doesn't mean you're not right about Fishburne, but I think you know what I mean.I admit, it's a stacked field so I want him there and it's not craziness.But when I see it again I'll make a decision.

Don't agree at all on Tommy Lee Jones tho, or the Sarandon thing.It's a legitimate comment tho, I grant you.I just think it's clearly the Harrison Ford show, and Jones is his foil.


Some of those, such as the suggestion of Denzel, or Casey Affleck in Assassination...the movie isn't even about the James character.Affleck is the guy.

One quick thing tho: Travolta cannot be lead in Pulp Fiction, He has the Uma scenes.Jackson has every scene he's in.Travolta always appears as clearly secondary in their time together.Jackson is supporting, but the film is clearly an ensemble.There is no way one can push Travolta lead and Jackson supporting.Even if Travolta has more screentime (I assume he does), it isn't enough more, and the film isn't his more than it is Jackson's.Both should easily be in the supporting category.


Sorry if that sounds arrogant.

January 4, 2019 | 未注册的批评家Me

Whether or not this message board agrees if he was supporting, Denzel was definitely one of the snubs in the category that year.Would’ve replaced TLJ with him.

January 4, 2019 | 未注册的批评家Paranoid Android

I think the Pulp Fiction thing is very simple.

塞缪尔Jackson, despite having memorable roles to that point, was a relative unknown.Uma Thurman was considered up-and-coming and was by no means a big star.John Travolta was a mega-mega star at points of his career and still had the name recognition.Simple as that.

You can't have mega-mega star John Travolta as supporting.He was the first name on all the posters and promotion.Plus, of the four main storylines (Jules and Vincent going to the job, Butch after the fight, Vincent and Mia, Jules and Vincent after the job), Travolta plays a major part in three and has a role in the fourth.He is 100% the lead.

January 4, 2019 | 未注册的批评家Ben

Me: Don't worry - it didn't come across as arrogant.

In What's Love..., Bassett is of course playing the main character - but Fishburne is playing a major character, and I think that major non-protagonists can be leads too (e.g.Michael Douglas in Wall Street or, as you say, Streep in The Devil Wears Prada).

My thing about Jones is that, while it's the Ford show, it's only the Ford show to an extent.Ford was of course the massive star and therefore pulls focus as Kimble - but once Gerard comes into the movie, I would wager that the screen time is split pretty much 50/50 between him and Kimble.Also, many of Ford's scenes - especially in the first half - don't have any dialogue, whereas Jones is always surrounded by other characters and hardly ever stops talking, so his feels like a major role to me.And the two of them drive the plot, from the rail crash to the end - Kimble through evading capture and investigating the reasons for his wife's murder, Gerard through tracking Kimble and initiating ploys to capture him.But fair enough - I don't mind the supporting placement too much - there's a borderline element.

Re: Pulp Fiction: I think Travolta is a clear lead - for the reasons Ben says - and Jackson is borderline but I'd lean to lead for him.Jackson has a profound character arc - the arc that speaks to the film's own stance on the violence it presents.Travolta's character doesn't have an arc.That doesn't preclude him from being a lead for the reasons Ben gives, but I think that Jackson's arc plus his overwhelming dominance of their initial scenes as well as from the Marvin incident to the end of the movie gives him an edge as lead over support.这是一个整体,是的,但一个巨大的合奏,within that, taking a step back, I'd be inclined to give Travolta and Jackson lead placements as the central gangsters of the tale, with everyone else in support.But again, clearly plenty of people feel differently, as Jackson got mainly supporting citations in 1994 (though he did get a handful of lead mentions).So, this one isn't clear-cut either!

The one I feel strongest about as a lead, out of the ones we've discussed, is Fishburne.Be interested to hear your further thoughts on that if you check the film out again.Either way, I think it's mighty cool that the Academy nominated him - an excellent performance deservedly recognised.

January 4, 2019 | 未注册的批评家爱德华·L.

Edward L;

I'm actually very surprised that he got nominated.Was far too young to know anything about it, but looking back, such a stacked field, it's surprising.


Pacino was terrific but didn't get any traction, and there were so many performances that year.Fishburne was overlooked at the Globes when the the placement was musical (I think that's funny).Don't know if they pushing him supporting at that point.


All very good points on Jones.I've seen the film recently (keep catching it on TV when I'm not doing anything).A few years ago I saw it again and was really put off but how bad some of the dialogue is, and I hate to say how preposterous a lot of it is.Watching it again, the tension is so very strong so I think it works out OK.But could never push it as BP after that.Especially not that year.

Biut anyway, the talking point is a very good point, but in a way it almost helps define him as supporitng...maybe i'm making that up lol, but his character doesn't shut up, He's the leader of his troops and they love him, even tho he could come off as a curmudgeon.I think I'd agree with you if he had an arc that started from the beginning, as Ford does.Obviously we see Gerrard on a bust with his crew, and his handling of the bureaucrats.which sets his tone, his personality, his ostensible contradictions.But still feel that it's a story about Kimble.Also, such a stacked field.So I'm OK with that.


Tho with Pulp Fiction, where I agree, is that they're either both lead or they're both supporting.Have always said that.When I was younger, I had them both lead.There are a lot of standout performances that year as well.Ben hit it on the head.Travolta is Travolta.It was a comeback, but he was the big name.And his charisma is unbelievable.

But it's just a classic case of an ensemble for me.Given Hanks, Newman, Freeman, Depp, Harrelson, Robbins...and I actually have yet to see The Madness of King George (hit a slump).

Lots of supporting performances too.

January 4, 2019 | 未注册的批评家Me

Are people finally turning the corner with Tommy Lee Jones's Oscar win?All I ever hear is how robbed DiCaprio and Fiennes were, but Jones gets an unnecessarily bad rap in my view.He helped make "The Fugitive" come alive and knew exactly how to calibrate what he was doing in that kind of film.I've always liked his win but felt in the extreme minority about if.

January 4, 2019 | 未注册的批评家Gideon

I agree that the 1976 shortlist is pretty terrific.Any of them could have won and it would've been deserving.

I also really like 1962:

Ed Begley – Sweet Bird of Youth
Victor Buono – What Ever Happened to Baby Jane?
Telly Savalas – Birdman of Alcatraz
Omar Sharif – Lawrence of Arabia
Terence Stamp – Billy Budd

...and 1982:

Charles Durning -- The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas
Louis Gossett Jr.-- An Officer and a Gentleman
John Lithogow -- The World According to Garp
James Mason -- The Verdict
Robert Preson -- Victor/Victoria

I have a soft sport for 1974, the first Oscars I ever watched.It was a bizarre year and completely fascinating.

Fred Astaire -- The Towering Inferno
Jeff Bridges -- Thunderbolt and Lightfoot
Robert DeNiro -- The Godfather Part II
Michael V.Gazzo -- The Godfather Part II
Lee Strasberg -- The Godfather Part II


I actually thought last year's lineup was truly wonderful, one of the best ever.

I need to revisit 1993 because it's been a while, but I really like TLJ's win.

January 4, 2019 | 未注册的批评家brookesboy

Me: Excellent points - thanks.I've really enjoyed our exchange of views!

brookesboy: I like those years too.I do feel that the best supporting actor of 1974 wasn't nominated - John Cazale in The Godfather Part II.John Huston in Chinatown and Martin Balsam and Robert Shaw in The Taking of Pelham One Two Three are all excellent too.Of the nominated five, my vote goes to Gazzo - though the others are all very good too.

January 4, 2019 | 未注册的批评家爱德华·L.

Edward L;

Thanks.I appreciate getting someone else's perspective.It's a good one, too.


John Huston and especially John Cazale were fantastic.Cazale deserving over Strasberg and Gazzo.Could have nominated all 4, tho I think it was an easy win for De Niro.


实际上我认为他在我们TLJ conversation, given the cutting back and forth.De Niro is the lead while on onscreen, obviously.I wonder if that would give him a better argument, or a lesser one.

January 4, 2019 | 未注册的批评家Me

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