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星期一
二月 24 2020

读者选择:远航(1976)

Last week by popular vote you selected this streaming film for screening & discussion...

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It lasted 30 days...You will remember it as long as you live."

所以去的主要标语之一的奥斯卡希望远航(1976年)。它读起来就像一个威胁 - 当标语攻击!- 长难忘坐的这个承诺。只有观看The Voyage of the Damned对于第一次在本周末,这是言之尚早,如果我们会记住它,只要我们的生活,但声明的另一部分是准确的。我们不会对运行时间表露无疑评论(太容易了!),但名义上的通道确实是强烈的可耻全球史长达一个月的时刻。

对于那些unfamilar与历史不言而喻,很简单,像这样...

Passengers angrily leaving the screening of a film within the film we were screening (Voyage of the Damned).

在1939年5月13日,不到四个月前,二战开始后,德国让900+犹太人离开祖国开往哈瓦那,古巴的船。这是一个复杂的政治伎俩,部分公关行动/所有的宣传,作为纳粹完全可以预期的是船从古巴与所有乘客返回,已经作出了社会的混乱和反犹太主义煽动工程点,任何国家想要的犹太人。这也是深奥残酷的,一个精心制作的“心灵!我们还在毕竟杀了你“。

远航让你从它的第一个场景纳粹计划,现在去除观众任何无知(他们应该偶然在电影 - 它流在HBO)可能来自要么缺乏关于1939年或没有能力的全球性事件的教育 to infer meaning from movie titles;这不是一个休闲的邮轮,事情不会对乘客好下场。

“The nightmare's nearly over, dearest."

圣母院温迪·希勒获得对话的第一行说了一次船的号角吹,我们启航15分钟成片。该生产线的位置,考虑到广泛的和凌乱获奥斯卡提名的剧本来,感觉就像偶然的光彩。噩梦是当然刚刚开始。1939年世界上大多数国家仍在试图要么安抚希特勒或保持中立,假设发热会通过(听起来很熟悉?)。在Voyage我们看到这款通过政客和官僚和记者之间的多个发疯离舰参数(詹姆斯·梅森,费尔南多·雷伊,迈克尔·康斯坦丁,其中)。在离舰的序列最令人难忘的是本Gazarra作为义愤填膺犹太记者和奥森·威尔斯在古巴雪茄吸烟不道德的政治家。这可耻的“寻找其他方式,保护你自己的口袋/功率的默认立场,是电影中最难打击的手指挥舞主题。

但其中也存在着问题。远航与事件,插曲,实际恶棍是这个目标是不是有像牛眼东西击中如此软垫。这并不是说这部电影可以做无三个但是失衡防止一帆风顺成电影的历史。

the complex busy plot surrounding these two little girls reads as very important in the first few minutes.But the movie drops it for over an hour.

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这个故事本身是如此迷人的和有效的,这很难不长更多的东西Altmanesque其中所有的元素交织在一起成流体序列,其中的场景从来没有完全开始或结束与人类的繁华和不断每个框架内移。这斯图尔特·罗森伯格(Cool Hand Luke, Amityville Horror)电影是更为行人和电视情节。它有一个从一个场景大约两跳的习惯 people into another and then to another, often filmed in closeup, rather than viewing the whole collection of characters as one complex human tapestry, always inhabiting the same 1939 hellscape.The characters disappear for such long stretches that sometimes you've forgotten all about them or who they were by the time they resurface.Even the most movie-friendly emotional episodes -like one man's quest to be reunited with his daughters --can feel like easily removeable subplots rather, than crucial moments in an evolving human tragedy.

Don't speak!(you're not pulling off these scenes)

Subplots
The less successful stories are...well, let us not speak of Malcolm McDowell and Lynn Fredrick's embarrassing youthful romance subplot or its undermotivated tragic ending.The latter does at least serve as connective thread between the film's two most hysterical sequences, the first a broadly acted mess (what is Sam Wanamaker doing?) and the other a polarizing but, we'd argue, awesome scene (more on that later in our favourite things about the picture).

Villains
Though远航is most impactful when its shaming the non-Nazi world that let the Nazis happen, it dilutes the message by leaning heavily on the less abstract villain wearing the Swastika.Helmut Griem, just four years past his own 'neutrality' when it came to those same disruptive thugs inCabaret, is now playing a true believer.He's so loathsome that I admit I was waiting for him to get his comeuppance throughout in a kind of Tarantino-revisionist desire for bloody revenge.Why are the captain and his crew (who all seem disgusted by the Nazis) and the 900 passengers (who definitely hate Nazis) letting this gang of about 5 Nazis get away with all of this?在 one sequence a group of Jewish passengers have finally had enough of their lives as political sacrificial pawns and take up axes and hammers.Sadly, though believably given human nature and the chaos that springs from desperation, they don't aim the weapons at theactualNazis on board but someone who is trying to figure out a way to help them.

That someone is the ship's captain (a beautifully solemn and stoic Max von Sydow) who exudes authority and righteous order;if people can't have safety and dignity in the world, by god they will have it on his ship!

Several readers assumed we would hate this picture so we must quickly state that we didn't.We just wished it were better.It could have been a great movie with a better screenplay, fewer broad or silly acting choices (why do only the lower class passengers speak with German accents when every single character is German?), and more artful multi-tasking direction.

a few favourite things...

...both scenes featuring Katharine Ross, who won the Golden Globe for Best Supporting Actress before Oscar decided against her altogether, really sing.Practically a whole movie has passed by the time she shows up but she's worth the wait.Her first scene is a stereotypical hooker-with-a-heart-of-gold introduction but she plays it beautifully, leaning away from trope-mandated goodness and more into genuine confusion and improvisation...she's trying to figure out how to act in this confounding scenario she did not see coming even if you can still tell that her heart is gold.She's even better in her second (and only other) scene where we learn she is secretly Jewish and that her parents are onboard the ship that can't dock.It's the most exquisitely acted scene in the entire film with all three actors (ever reliableYentlpapa Nehemiah Persoff plays her father) delivering a gut-wrenching estranged-family mini-movie against the ticking clock of three absolutely inadequate minutes.

...Lee Grant famously nabbed an Oscar nomination and the clip that surely sealed it, despite Oscar passing on the movie as a whole, was her positively mental self-service hair salon.And herewith a very uncool confession: this sequence really got to me.But then I am quite regularlygotby the always stellar Grant.I felt every snip of those scissors as if her character Lili Rosen waswillingon a psychotic break rather than Grant doing the arguably easier acting choice of re-enacting one.

...Paul Koslo and "introducing Jonathan Pryce" as Aaron and Joseph.We rarely see them apart and they are not related.As such they are easy to view as gay lovers who have narrowly escaped death in concentration camps (the re-shaving of their heads being a Nazi threat on board).Were they meant to read as gay in 1976 or was this tacit unconscious acknowledgment that there were also gay victims of the Holocaust...without having to have the conscious bravely to actually depict it?2020年我们很难猜是什么ing through the minds of the filmmakers and actors in 1976 but Koslo & Pryce's close physical proximity throughout the picture makes their lack of romantic affection in their second scene together, a totally private reunion in their shared cabin, when they both had literally thought the other dead, the worst of their otherwise solid scenes.

But they're two of the more interesting characters in an overstuffed ship filled with many dud roles.If they were meant to be seen as a gay couple, than the depiction of Aaron as one of the most traditionally masculine* men on board is yet more interesting given the context of 1976.(*Aaron takes frequent beatings, takes charge in physically dangerous situations, and never once appears to be on the verge of an emotional breakdown like so many of the teary eyed or emotionally frayed men -- we're not condoning this view of masculinity, mind you, but itisthe "traditional" one.)

...And Faye Dunaway in general.GODDESS.远航was released the same year asNetwork, so we're talking supernova peak.The camera loves her so much one knows that it longs to become sentient and ditch the dreary prestige trappings, and just follow her into some other more fabulous movie entirely...or at least into her dressing room.

She is extra.Though she's a doomed Jewess and the coolest (in both senses) person in the room at all times, she also whip-smart and able to pragmatically set aside all the panic in service of her own fabulousity.She turns it out with a cheeky monocle and thigh-high dominatrix boots during the ship's incongruously festive and weirdly racist costume ball in which many of the Jewish prisoners are wearing "oriental" masks.Later that same evening she'll let her husband think he's seducing her while she's actually seducing him into undressing her.

...then she'll casually just hang there, half naked, in full view of the ship's doctor once he interrupts the nookie because someone else's husband went and died.This bitch cannot with everyone else's hysterics.The only people that ever ruffle her are her husband (Oskar Werner) -- in fairness that hairpiece is unnerving -- and Lee Grant with a pair of scissors.

All that said, Daniella Isaacs was correctin the comments on the readers pollthat the more camp-friendly elements ofVoyageare a bit hard to fully enjoy given the context in which they occur.

P.S.Oh yes, the mandatory awards chatter.
Because we know you love a list, the 'star' performances ranked

  1. Katharine Ross
  2. Lee Grant
    there's a reason it was those two with awards shows...but the following four actors are in fine form, too
  3. Nehemiah Persoff
  4. Max Von Sydow
  5. Orson Welles
  6. Maria Schell
  7. Victor Spinetti
    others with good moments...
  8. Faye Dunaway
  9. Helmut Griem
  10. Paul Koslo
  11. 詹姆士 Mason
  12. Janet Suzman
    没有thing much is asked of them beyond a single note...
  13. Denholm Elliott
  14. Fernando Rey
  15. Michael Constantine
  16. Wendy Hiller
  17. Julie Harris
  18. Leonardo Rossiter
  19. Jose Ferrer
  20. Luther Adler
    these characters make zero sense in the script - a tough break for two talented men
  21. Oskar Werner
  22. Malcolm McDowell
    没有 comment
  23. Lynn Frederick
  24. Sam Wanamaker

Those are the only "single title card" players so they would have been the nominees if the SAG Awards had existed back then and had the film received a SAG Outstanding Cast nomination (which it probably would have given that EVERY star was in it).You know how we like to project backwards to discuss such things.

Seaman Berg can get it.

Among the expansive cast that weren't famous enough in 1976 to warrant their own card, our favourites were these four: Anthony Higgins as "Seaman Berg" who iswaytoo sexy for this movie and unfortunately way too brave to notice that he won't survive a roomful of Nazis if he starts challenging them without backup;在a Skriver, a Danish actress, who has a beautiful moment singing a German ballad to the passengers;Marika Rivera who cuts a funny blowsy figure as the madame of a bordello in Cuba;and Jonathan Pryce in his film debut.

Oscars vs Globes
远航was clearly intended as one of the big Oscar players of 1976, arriving in all its slow paced prestige for Christmas in movie theaters.Yes, Hollywood has been releasing super depressing prestige dramas during the festive holiday week for aeons。Things didn't work out so well for the picture in that regard with just three nominations: Adapted Screenplay, Supporting Actress (Lee Grant), and Original Score (Lalo Schifrin).The Golden Globes were kinder offering it twice as many nominations: Best Picture (Drama), Supporting Actor (Oskar Werner), Best Supporting Actress x 2 (Lee Grant AND Katharine Ross), Screenplay, and Score.

It's worth noting that the supporting lists at the Globes and the Oscars that year did not see eye to eye.As for Best Picture, though,远航was the only Globe Drama nominee没有tto transfer to the corresponding Oscar nomination.

A comparison chart...

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最佳影片,剧情 最佳影片
All the President's Men All the President's Men
Bound for Glory Bound for Glory
Network Network
Rocky Rocky ★
远航 出租车司机
最佳男配角 最佳男配角
马蒂·费尔德曼,无声电影 内德·贝蒂,网络
罗恩霍华德Shootist 市民Meredith,洛基
劳伦斯·奥利弗,男子马拉松★ 劳伦斯·奥利弗,男子马拉松
贾森·罗巴兹,惊天大阴谋 贾森·罗巴兹,惊天大阴谋★
奥斯卡·沃纳,远航 伯特扬,洛基
最佳女配角 最佳女配角
李格兰特,远航 简亚历山大,惊天大阴谋
马斯·凯勒,男子马拉松 朱迪·福斯特,出租车司机
派珀·劳里,凯莉 李格兰特,远航
贝尔纳黛特彼得斯,无声电影 派珀·劳里,凯莉
凯瑟琳·罗斯,远航★ 比阿特丽斯·斯特雷特,网络★
谢利·温特斯,下一站格林威治村

Whether or not you prefer the Oscar list (and obviously every sane person is glad出租车司机snuck in there) it's always wonderful to be reminded that the Golden Globes often embrace comedy which is their best trait since it gives them their own identity and because comedy shouldn't be shunned when it's brilliant.(Bernadette Peters ishystericallyfunny inSilent Movieso well done there, Globes.)

Have you seen远航?Do you also wish it would be remade with a more artful and commanding directorial hand?Do you want to do these Reader's Choice streaming convos more often?If so, speak up.

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读者评论(47)

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2020年2月24日| 佩吉苏

Yes
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2020年2月24日| 未注册的批评家“ class=Ian

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2020年2月24日| 未注册的批评家“ class=Maureen McGovern

Lee Grant is the gift that keeps on giving,i'd like a whole section on her Oscar noms and snubs.

2020年2月24日| 未注册的批评家“ class=markgordonuk

The Cuban scenes are shot in Barcelona and you can totally tell.

2020年2月24日| 未注册的批评家“ class=Ana de Armas

没有,但是我想(对星星和离开rds history)
I don't know, as I haven't seen it
Yes, this was fun and a lovely long article that worked even though I haven't seen the film.

Hope you enjoyed doing it!

2020年2月24日| 爱德华·L.

Edward -- i did.I always enjoy watching things and writing about them.The problem is always the time and which things to watch/write up.

2020年2月24日| 未注册的批评家“ class=NATHANIEL R

No (though I will eventually see it)
Maybe?(I think it would be a good message given the current political environment)
Yes (It's always fun to get a first reaction to an older movie, in my opinion)

2020年2月24日| 未注册的批评家“ class=PoliVamp

I would have nominated Phyllis Dalton, would you?Not a particularly inspired lineup that year.The winner should have been Ruth Morley for Taxi Driver but they don't even vote for that type of movie in 2020.

2020年2月24日| 佩吉苏

No
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Yes

I'm now imagining a world with the phrase "Academy Award nominee Marty Feldman" ...Do you think that he was close to transferring his Globe nom to an Oscar nom?

2020年2月24日| 未注册的批评家“ class=詹姆士 from Ames

I watched Voyage of the Damned and it was a little difficult for me beacuse i haved to watch it without subtitles so, probably i missed some sustantial parts in terms of dialogues but i clearly get the idea of the story.

The plot is interesting but the realization very lame, even the dramatization moments feels superficial to me.The story has so much characters that is difficult to create a connection with most of them.Even at the end when the text tell us what happened next with some characters seems a little forced and makes evident that the story could it be better if were more focused just in some characters instead of a random stories of the people on the boat.

The realization in terms of direction reminds me more a mini-series than a movie and at some point i thought would it work better in a TV format than a movie also considering the big number of character-stories that could it be tell so, this will be my answer to the second question.

Even when I don't have a streaming service I absolutely support the idea of do more often that Reader's Choice dynamic.

2020年2月24日| 未注册的批评家“ class=César Gaytán

No
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2020年2月24日| 未注册的批评家“ class=thevoid99

Nathaniel: I think a key thing in terms of conquering the time pressures on writing is only to write about the things you are most excited or compelled to write about.I'm not saying you don't do this, just saying that as someone who also writes, I find that when I'm excited or compelled, it hardly feels like work and the time magically expands to make room for it.

So if you do another one of these, make sure you again choose a bunch of films you want very much to watch.

2020年2月24日| 爱德华·L.

詹姆士 from Ames: A Feldman nomination would have been fun.But I think that 1976 is stacked with nominatable supporting actors.I think the five who were nominated are all terrific, but I think an equally powerful case could have been made for:

Robert Duvall in Network
Hal Holbrook in All the President's Men
Zero Mostel in The Front
Richard Pryor in Silver Streak
Carl Weathers in Rocky

As I say, stacked!

2020年2月24日| 爱德华·L.

24single title cards??surely that's some kind of record

没有 wonder the film is so freakin' long

this was a very enjoyable read - almost enough to make me watch it

[but i'll be honest - i'll probably just watch the poseidon adventure yet again]

2020年2月24日| 未注册的批评家“ class=par

This is “trivia” listed for the film on its IMDB page:

Many people believed that Lynne Frederick was going to receive an Oscar nomination for her performance in this film.在stead, her co-star Lee Grant got the nomination.When Grant received the nomination, Frederick personally sent her flowers along with a congratulatory note.Although Grant ultimately didn't win, Frederick was very supportive of Grant and publicly campaigned for her to win.

2020年2月24日| 未注册的批评家“ class=Joel M.

Could this have been saved by editing?It sounds like the pieces are in place, just put together poorly.Or is it a case where a "director's cut" couldn't fix the problems?

2020年2月24日| 未注册的批评家“ class=Dave in Hollywood

NIce write up.Can we get JUDITH HEARNE now, please.:)

2020年2月24日| 未注册的批评家“ class=Daniella Isaacs

Yes Yes Yes

For me Faye Dunaway is the only thing worth remembering in the movie.Does anyone know if Network was made first?Was she still basking in a glorious glow from that movie?I thought she did a better job in the haircutting scene than Lee Grant did.

2020年2月24日| 未注册的批评家“ class=Tom G.

Has this story not been made into a miniseries?It seems like something that ABC would have taken on in the 90s.A bit harder to see it being done now, but I wouldn’t be shocked if this story emerges in the next few years as a doc or a feature given everything happening in politics.

2020年2月24日| 未注册的批评家“ class=Joe G

李格兰特shld've韩元对这款N莉莉·汤姆林shld've韩元纳什维尔的年之前。

2020年2月24日| Claran

我也正是在这一震惊居然真的像李格兰特。很多电影的是一个烂摊子,但她的场景是有效的。

2020年2月24日| 特拉维斯

还没有看到它要么,但有趣的写了。我认为你应该做更多的这些。

我会看“海神号历险记”与你,PAR。

2020年2月24日| Forever1267

是的,这是非常不均匀的,但不是时间为投完全是浪费。

是的,和更好的编辑器!几个场景的消除以及其他的更严格的编辑会帮助很大。

是的,即使我不爱电影我也喜欢读它你的反应。更多信息,请!

2020年2月24日| joel6

我真的以为你会做一个女配角的排名。

2020年2月24日| 亲属

是的,以上这些,请:)

2020年2月25日| 特拉维斯

我想您的评论是了不起的。我希望这部电影是不错的。

为了从这些帖子澄清一些事情。。。

远航感觉就像一个电视短剧,因为原先剧本是一个。预计预算迫使生产者从电视转移到电影院。

网络是前一个月远航释放。

最重要的是,从她的头皮精神病突破的结果丽丽罗森(李格兰特)不剪的头发。相反,在犹太信仰,送葬从削减他们的头发死亡后至少30天禁止。然而,父母谁失去了他们的孩子,因为丽丽丧她的女儿安娜,是一个例外。这些送葬者可以“让你秃头。” Lili Rosen's actions are those of a devout Jew who is keening for the loss of her child.

2020年2月25日| 詹姆士

谢谢你,詹姆斯。我不知道。这使得场面更加尖锐。

2020年2月25日| 佩吉苏

该死纳撒尼尔,我也许会叫你斯特拉因为你刚收到你们的沟回。当心克劳迪奥,OG的即将到来的MVP!

道具读者对采摘响亮的纳撒尼尔piece.We正确的选择可以很多不同意,但大家都在选择什么工作最好的,因为文章声援味道不错表现。

2020年2月25日| Anglea B.

这样的洞察力和深入研究的薄膜,其不被所有的好低估。我与评论者同意上面,它被证明是在同时提供良好的最好的文章是正确的选择。越少谈到了“蕾妮/妮可梦后”,或可能被称为深受读者“的噩梦后”,就更好了。对不起铁皮鼓和Judith whatsername,我敢肯定你会看到和写时,你是最好的选择和时间是正确的。有了这个和电影母狗奖,你是在卷。我结束这个评论有来之不易的喝彩好先生!

2020年2月25日| 一分钱

你刚才提醒我怎么拉屎简亚历山大是在她的惊天大阴谋的小角色。不拉屎本身,而是一个完整的非实体。她有三个当之无愧提名那么这粪在汤碗里。凯瑟琳·罗斯在类似规模的作用,错过了由亚历山大的包容作出令人震惊的。

2020年2月25日| 经t

该T:我觉得简·亚历山大还远没有惊天大阴谋狗屎 - 她要扮演一个角色吓坏了,生怕在美国政府从阴暗的人物报复的说话,她传达了人谁愿意做正确的合适的冲击 thing but is scared to.这是可以理解的提名。而且它是一个没有名字记唯一获奥斯卡提名的角色?她只是所谓的“簿记员”的学分。

2020年2月25日| 爱德华·L.

爱德华·L.- 绝对同意。在她的脸上的恐惧是如此真实。政治家比外国人更可怕。

2020年2月25日| 佩吉苏

妈为相对于采取提名的地方。这是一个伟大的单expressionI承认,但如果你认为它的阵容值得那么我将不得不把一个星号旁边,你的名字在任何阵容或奖励的谈话。

2020年2月25日| 经t

我一两个星期前看了这也太 - 安东尼希金斯是我的大带走呢!西曼伯格哉!

2020年2月25日| 亚当·刘易斯

该T:你在多人欢迎把一个星号我的名字任何时候你喜欢。可能是明智的!

2020年2月25日| 爱德华·L.

因为有一个很大的李格兰特采访名利场杂志的当前的“好莱坞版,选出这部电影。
*不要翻拍/重启/重新想象了过去的项目。让我们把一些独创性到屏幕上。

2020年2月25日| TOM

哦,爱德华L.我这样做,你可能会最终评论了奥斯卡的选择,只有我们也将分享小众的意见的时刻,所以星号会变成金色的星星。:)

2020年2月25日| 经t

那么,这将是很好,如果这样的!

2020年2月25日| 爱德华·L.

我从来没有看过这部电影。但它是有趣的,他们可以收集 this prestigious for such a low-key, workmanlike project.They were aiming for greatness, that is clear.And it's always fun to be reminded of what a huge star Faye Dunaway was...and is.

2020年2月25日| 未注册的批评家“ class=brookesboy

Edward L / The T.— Lee Grant was credited as Shoplifter for her Oscar nominated role in Detective Story.

2020年2月25日| 未注册的批评家“ class=Patrick T

And Joel Grey won an Oscar as Master of Ceremonies in Cabaret.

2020年2月25日| 詹姆士

Thank you, Patrick T and James!

2020年2月25日| 爱德华·L.

Yes.
No.
Yes.

Completelly agree about two things:
Grant and Ross gave the best performances;
“Seaman Berg" is really hot.


PS: Next "Reader's Choice": "Caged", 1950.

2020年2月25日| 未注册的批评家“ class=Fabio Dantas Flappers

That they were.I was meaning regardless of credited character name or lack thereof that is was a nothing role and unworthy of nomination.Especially since the two you point out were fantastic and worthy performances.Grey won and Lee got Cannes Best Actress and I would've been fine with her winning the Supporting Actress Oscar that year.Good little curios you picked up on though.

(Also yes to Fabio's suggestion of Caged!)

2020年2月26日| 经t

Now that's an all star cast.

2020年2月26日| 未注册的批评家“ class=Jaragon

One of the posters tries to sell it as an all star disaster movie

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