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攻击波的02:梅丽尔,朱利安·之杰,女王Latifah "and" Kathy Bates

女配角Smackdown系列挑选的奥斯卡经典和探讨。

被提名人Today's topic: 2002 which featured the moviesAdaptation, The Hours, About Schmidt,和最佳影片冠军Chicago。这个very starry field of much-beloved actresses (all but one are now Oscar winners) deliver a juicy collection of characters: a horny mother-of-the-groom, a suicidal 50s housewife, an opportunistic prison warden, a fictionalized non-fiction writer, and a jazzbaby murderess.

专家小组Here to talk about these 2002 divas and their movies are comedian/writer乔尔·金助推器,comedian/writerMatt Rogers,品种是工匠的编辑Jazz Tangcay,Vox的的评论家在超大Emily VanDerWerff,and lip sync assassin本Yahr分期。And, as ever, your host at The Film Experience,Nathaniel R。让我们开始...

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凯西贝茨为“罗伯塔Hertzel”在About Schmidt

Synopsis:该horny unfiltered mother-of-the-groom unnerves the father of the bride as their children's wedding approaches.

Stats
:该n 54 yrs old, 36th film, 6th billed (with an "and" to make her special). Third (of four) nominations. 14 minutes of screen time (or 11% of the running time)

乔尔·金助推器:一个可怕的,居高临下的,值得更好的演员角色。我有一个过敏最亚历山大·佩恩的工作,而这部电影也不例外。我爱凯西,但我觉得很难相信有不超过今年值得表演。

Matt Rogers:Relentlessly funny, and certainly scores yet another notch in her iconic scene bedpost (of which Kathy has a few) with her hot tub come-on. While the performance is brief and there isn't too much demanded of Kathy, she scores and scores and scores. Bates is obviously an immense talent and I always love to see a full out comedy performance nominated, but if this is the year we were doing that in a major way, then why not Andrea Martin in我的希腊婚礼?也许是因为她是不是已经奥斯卡最喜欢的,我觉得在这里走了很长的路要走。♥♥♥

Jazz TangcayNot her finest role. Revisiting About Schmidt after all these years -- it's still pretty awful. If anything, she is the best thing about it, but barely. Sorry, Kathy!

Emily VanDerWerff:贝茨是一如既往,相当不错,玩什么感觉就像安妮威尔克斯的进化形式,其变异到一些女演员扮演的角色American Horror Story。But the performance is in service of the cruelest section of what might be Alexander Payne's cruelest movie, and Bates doesn't really push back against that tone, choosing to just go with the current of mocking these poor Coloradans. I suspect she got the nomination because of the nude scene, which surely would have been seen at the time as "brave." (It was frequently mentioned in the reviews.) But that scene is the nadir of the film's general "laughing at, not laughing with" vibe.♥♥

本Yahr分期:凯西贝茨散发出真正的“酷阿姨”能在这个角色。一个谁可以让你抽烟杂草在她的地下室,真的想你知道70年代是喜欢。她走进按摩浴缸裸第二,凯西确保了奥斯卡提名。不是一个巨大的情感范围,她的性格,但很多接地人类和微妙的幽默。这是一小部分,和她做了争分夺秒。她分娩行的“喝你他妈的奶和不他妈的闭嘴”差点让我吐出我的拉克鲁瓦♥♥♥♥

Nathaniel R:奥斯卡提名闪耀全场是极其“太多”的人物亚历山大·佩恩已经为凯西贝茨写的。嗯,“人物”应该是在引号了。罗伯塔更是一个无量纲容器对话的古怪线意味着我们颠簸笑起来比实际的人。这就是说,我发现自己哈哈大笑至少三次,每次都是由于随机肢体语言或古怪的具体线的读数,尤其是一个比搞笑网页上更毛。在“什么东西给我bedpan?"♥♥

Reader Write-Ins:“‘支持’一个完整的场景窃电和定义一定能提高她出现在任何电影或场景。”-Tom F.(读者平均:♥♥¾

演员earns 15¾ ❤s

皇后拉蒂法为“护士长妈妈莫顿”芝加哥

Synopsis:A warden arranges representation, press, and good lawyers for her prisoners... at a price.

Stats:该n 32 yrs old, 12th film, 4th billed. Her first (and only) nomination. 11 minutes of screentime (or 10% of the running time)

乔尔·金助推器:Sure! I wanted to roll my eyes at this nomination but watching it again today I warmed to it. She's certainly doing more than Kathy, and solidifies her place as a star if maybe not an actress.♥♥

Matt Rogers:达纳是乐趣Chicago。"When You're Good To Mama" isn't wasted on her. But this nomination rode a wave of love for the film surrounding it, and I think most people without knowledge of the Oscars would be surprised to hear it was given much awards consideration. There's nothing super challenging here (it's the role they'll most often stunt cast and throw to someone like Countess Luann on Broadway), and you have to imagine that every actress in Hollywood who could claim to be a Mama Morton type would give a fun take on it. I guess that's my big issue here: this role just doesn't ask much of an actress, and because it doesn't require ingenuity, it isn't given any by Latifah. But, like I said, fun!♥♥

Jazz Tangcay看我爱她。我觉得她比Julianne and Kathy in this lineup. I worship at the temple of Rob Marshall and this film.

Emily VanDerWerff:每个人都在Chicago可能是他们曾经去过的电影是最好的。我不知道这是拉蒂法的真实 - 她平时真的很好 - 但她的唯一的奥斯卡提名是她的前三大演出之一,至少。我唯一会嫌弃她(这是不是一个真正的批评她的)is the way that she sort of slides out of the movie after her big number. But "If You're Good to Mama" is a real showstopper, and I enjoy her role as a de facto member of Roxie Hart's legal counsel, which she turns into a proto-version of Kim Wexler fromBetter Call Saul,但一个谁唱的。她是这一类两个都定时器演出我身后了一步,但是只有一步。♥♥♥♥

本Yahr分期:皇后拉蒂法在这部电影(正义之切宋“级”)一个大数目。而她被提名为执行这首歌。这首歌是成绩辉煌,但电影的休息并没有给女王那么多与工作。真的没有足够的情感赌注护士长妈妈莫顿真正让我们刮目相看。不要误会,我中学时是绝对练我的蟒蛇工作偷偷地去“当你是好妈妈”。她补充能量和魅力的电影。皇后拉蒂法是固体和一致行动人,但我不禁想到被越过当年托尼·科莱特♥♥♥

Nathaniel R:像她的同胞被提名人CZJ,拉蒂费到这个电影的眼睛闪烁着,兴奋的机会。不幸的是我们,“当你是好妈妈,”以其布布震与羽挥舞既是一种大有希望的第一印象,也不可能不辜负。她在她的其他(诚然薄)场景遗忘和转弯缺少的那种喜剧的曲折或好奇的细节可能有通电,否则这很边缘的角色。我一直想要更多。♥♥

Reader Write-Ins:"Latifah plays it light, but there are shades of steel there. I get the impression Mama wouldn't be afraid to go all Nurse Ratchet on any of the chickies in her pen." -Tom G.(读者平均:♥♥

女演员收入18❤s

Juianne Moore as "Laura Brown" in该Hours

Synopsis:A钮1950 housewive读“达洛维夫人”,同时考虑要么自杀或放弃她的家人。

Stats:然后42岁老人,第32次膜,第三计费。第四提名的3对她的职业生涯(双提名这个非常年)出五。28minutes of screen time (or 25% of the running time).

乔尔·金助推器:Has the distinction of being the most maudlin performance in a movie full of them. I love Julianne, but I think she telegraphs a bit too much of the journey here, especially as compared to Toni Collette who does more with much less.♥♥♥

Matt Rogers:安静的一个了不起的写照,不堪忍受国内的痛苦。她是那种玩被困在一个女人,她不知道怎么在里面的女人。它看起来像她硬是讨厌在自己的皮肤上。我特别喜欢她的声音和神态似乎改变时,她似乎觉得她要和托尼·科莱特一个真正的连接方式。她在下降,并停止在一个非常微妙的方式“表演”。摩尔定律是不是我最喜欢的表演该Hours(that would be Streep), but the degree of difficulty here is quite high, even if some of the direction beats us over the head with how good the performance is. ACTING is very much HAPPENING in scenes such as Moore's performance for her husband from the bathroom, but that acting is great, and the audience feels what they need to feel as a result of it: really fucking sad.♥♥♥♥

Jazz Tangcay在电影的另一种优良的性能与精湛的铸造,但托尼·科莱特更值得它和电影真正属于妮可·基德曼。

Emily VanDerWerff2002年:我讨厌这部电影,我haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaated it in 2020. The degree to which it glamorizes the suffering of women and poor people, beating its chest in pursuit of Oscars makes it hard to appreciate any of the performances, and any time the movie zeroes in on something moving from its considerable cast, Philip Glass's score (good in isolation!) wanders in to blow everything out of the water. Moore is perfectly fine. I quite liked her in the concluding scene with Streep, and she does everything she's asked to do. But comparing this to her also-nominated work as a different '50s housewife in远离天堂这一年 - 它甚至不是一场比赛。♥♥

本Yahr分期:这是该类别的心脏断路器。该方法朱丽安会保留恐惧冒泡刚下表面是熟练的和毁灭性的。而她的劳拉和托尼·科莱特的基蒂之间的瞬间让我(我假设每个同性恋观看)的尖叫声。说实话,在此片中的痛苦水平是有点太多对我来说,这个世界隔离我们都在处理,但没有否认这些演员都是令人难以置信的。朱丽安的表现果然不俗,但该学院显然是心情稍微拉扎勒炫♥♥♥♥♥

Nathaniel R:作为一个铁杆球迷朱丽安我必须承认,我觉得这个她最薄弱的奥斯卡奖的提名(其他四个*厨师的吻*?)。她的令人难忘的,是的,但在电影制作和其他演员都在做繁重;当我在这部电影里我其实一直在想的约翰·C·赖利的声音覆盖的想起她“到床上,劳拉·布朗,”她的小儿子的巨大贫困眼睛,或托尼·科莱特的意外性感和完美的家庭主妇门面。穆尔是固体,但摩尔定律的两场演出之间的几乎紧张的精神痛苦贸易,给我更多的干扰/挑战安全(1995年),每次♥♥♥

Reader Write-Ins:"Her stillness is so dynamic, an achievement that can only come at the hands of a skilled actress. " -Aditya(读者平均:♥♥♥¾

女演员收入22¾❤s


梅丽尔·斯特里普as "Susan Orleans" inAdaptation

Synopsis:一个孤独的New Yorker记者担忧的是,当一个编剧适应她的书她的秘密会被发现。

Stats:该n 53 yrs old, 28th film, 2nd billed13日提名(最终21)。32曝光贵分钟(或运行时间的28%)。

乔尔·金助推器:他们有点厚脸皮提名这一业绩超过了我认为是黄金梅丽尔的一个更好的例子该Hours。It goes some interesting places, but because of the nature of Kaufman's writing here it feels a bit thin. This movie is about Nic Cage and Chris Cooper, the women get a little forgotten.♥♥♥

Matt Rogers:Very few things make me happier than watching Meryl Streep have fun. I always find my favorite performances of hers are her comedy ones, particularly when she explores vanity. With this performance, however, she's accessing an edgier, more sexual side of herself than we traditionally see. It's also one of the great examples of acting as if you're on drugs, and I particularly enjoy the moment when Susan Orlean realizes she is in fact high while brushing her teeth, leading to the delightful dial tone sequence. I don't even really have qualms with this performance, just that the movie isn't really for me and it's hard to get a finger on the character. She's still, overall, the best thing aboutAdaptation。But when is Meryl Streep not the best thing about whatever she's in (this includes该Hours)?"I want to be a baby again"? She sold that one.♥♥♥♥

Jazz Tangcay:关大和第三幕材料开始它变成一个到底是怎么回事 -沼泽追?但梅丽尔擅长的转变,她是太棒了。这种性能经常被引用的Streeps的任何十强。关注她所有的场景一起,它就像一个史诗般的梅丽尔集锦。爱她在这。♥♥♥♥

Emily VanDerWerff:这是错误的说,这是我最喜欢的梅丽尔·斯特里普的表现?是?没有?如果不出意外,她是那么这里好多了比她在该Hours。这表现会单独为她获得高的场景值得的,通过成为她的牙齿的刷牙迷住了,模仿拨号音,只是通常所需的时间已经怪异的电影和拖拉成完全怪异的领土。(它是惊人的多少电影的从元评书别的东西完全是由斯特里普和斯特里普承担独自一人,她也可以正常工作,如你所期望的那样。移位)加时,她对苏珊·奥恩更传统的旋转,她的非常善于捕捉记者谁把她的科目,如动物园里的动物。♥♥♥♥♥

本Yahr分期:Like Meryl ever falls short of perfection. She brought an anxiety and fragility to this character that I for one definitely identified with. The end of this movie goes so wildly and intentionally off the rails, so I as the audience was very grateful for Meryl’s grounded and natural energy. This whole movie had that overly intellectualized, aimed at depressed people quality that so many movies had in the early 2000s. But Meryl has a singular ability to take mediocre material and elevate it to something human. All of her performances could have won Oscars, but this was clearly Catherine’s year♥♥♥♥♥

Nathaniel R:在Streepography的史册,有等于“拨号音”两种工艺和adorability纯粹的奇迹几个场景。我也很佩服她之间滑动的方式realand the fictional skewerings of the same person though I admit to wishing that the demarcation line was a bit more visible. Still, this is a wow in terms of difficulty. If La Streep starts challenging herself like this again soon we will consider clamoring for a fourth Oscar. But I have to admit that I once thought of this as the Streep/Cooper movie but this time through Nicolas "my genre's thriller. What's yours?" Cage wins top honors.♥♥♥♥

Reader Write-Ins:"Streep‘s an easy winner for me. Such a funny, sad, singular, hypnotic performance so beautifully distilled in her last moments crying over Chris Cooper’s dead body and wishing she were a baby again in the swamp. One of many career peaks for Meryl." -雷L.(读者平均:♥♥♥♥¼

女演员收入29¼❤s

凯瑟琳·泽塔·琼斯的“维尔玛·凯利”芝加哥

Synopsis:A vaudeville star, on trial for a double-homicide, finds public interest in her case diminishing after a new murderess joins her in the clink.

Stats然后33岁老人,12膜,第二开帐单的1st (and only) nomination. 31曝光贵分钟(或运行时间的27%)。

乔尔·金助推器:我记得当时想,这是一个愚蠢的,华而不实的提名,并赢得CZJ,但再看着它,特别是对这些其他的演出,她独自一人赢得它纯粹的工作。但有关性能的伟大的事情是她从来没有让你看到的工作。类欺诈可能的位?这对我来说是太大的领先性能,齐薇格,但我会答应。♥♥♥♥

Matt Rogers:她拍摄这部电影了他妈的大炮与“所有爵士”,然而有人会说她最经典的一刻她的过程中事实上的,然后rageful,在“电池座探戈”单飞咆哮第一个问题来了。她不仅是完美的一部分,不仅是她漂亮在执行物理,音乐和幽默地苛求完美无瑕的作用,但是这是不辜负我的个人专栏那些奥斯卡的胜利之一。我总是观看演出,并认为,“可能其他人也这样做呢?”是它的奇异?和凯瑟琳,对我来说,IS维尔玛·凯利。散发出来她嘴里的每一句话是可信的和自然的。你真的相信他们确实有它坠落。在总量控制的表演等令人难忘的,人们往往认为这是一个联合领导。它支持稳固。这只是偶像。♥♥♥♥♥

Jazz Tangcay:当我在看这个了百万次,我想'当她让她的复出?是的,她是当之无愧的胜利,是现在仍然是在这个惊人的,从性感“所有的爵士乐”到更热的“电池座探戈”,她带来了恶作剧的感觉,并且在整个简单的轰动。五颗星...等等。♥♥♥♥♥

Emily VanDerWerff:我记得找到这个性能,它在2002年大肆宣传早在2020年的电影,我不知道我在想什么。泽塔 - 琼斯对维尔玛·凯利自旋是如此迷人。她的指甲唱歌。她的指甲跳舞。她钉在那里维尔玛必须是脆弱的场景and在那里她有假装的场景是脆弱的。她是完美的亦敌亦友,完美的帮凶,和完美的歌曲和舞蹈女歌手。这是对蕾妮·齐薇格的信用是泽塔·琼斯并没有跑掉与电影,但她仍然需要在电影远在慢走。♥♥♥♥♥

本Yahr分期:CZJ给他们有此表现想要的一切同性恋者。重眼线,高中的生产Thoroughly Modern Milliewig… we were fed. And hearing a non-American actor try to wrap their mouth around an American accent always tickles us. In fact, the deep throaty way she says CICERO is probably why I turned out the way I did. She brought a sense of chaos and rage to Velma Kelly that thrilled us all. There were only a few moments of vulnerability for CZJ to dig into (I’ll never forget the reveal of her worn and ripped stockings). If there were more, this could have been a flawless performance.♥♥♥♥

Nathaniel R:超级从她的挑衅愤怒的入口,这很让人致命的来上,通过对她的穿着放养脆弱的最后一次赌博充电。她从来没有几步脚误,造成每个乐曲,每一个利己读行,而且最重要的管理的纠结直通线在她对她的不满,但实际感受笨,但精明,对口。泽塔 - 琼斯的维尔玛是从“演员的极其有限的体裁是谁明明知道在拍摄那这个是的一个,他们会被记住”,并随后攻击,好像他们的传统依赖于它。其中它。我想这样它的纯率的表情符号,这样的表现。更确切地说...♥♥♥♥♥

Reader Write-Ins:"该juiciest role of all 5 roles and boy, she is nailing every beat.“ -Cesar(读者平均:♥♥♥♥¼

女演员收入32¼❤s

结果:凯瑟琳·泽塔·琼斯是奥斯卡的锁,并在温和的惊喜,她再次也是失控的赢家在SD节目!

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NEXT UP:1957年的奥斯卡角逐将在7月6日进行讨论。观看最佳影片提名冷暖人间andWitness for the Prosecution,以及Sayonaraand该Bachelor Party(如果你能找到他们)在此之前,以最大限度地提高你的下一个的Smackdown的享受。[以前的所有Smackdowns]

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读者评论(2)

我喜欢梅丽尔 - 凯西,像凯瑟琳&女王和朱丽安... EHH(虽然她在她的其他提名反过来今年惊人的)。等不及听!

6月17日,2020 |Unregistered Commenter安德鲁·卡登

泽塔 - 琼斯是我的选择,从这个组中,虽然我有点希望穆尔(我在领导提名谁)是她最接近的竞争对手 - 而不是她最分裂的!?

My own line-up...

1)Patricia Clarkson - Far From Heaven
2)凯瑟琳泽塔琼斯 - 芝加哥
3)托尼的Collette - 时时刻刻
4) Geraldine McEwan - The Magdalene Sisters
5)艾琳沃尔什 - 的玛格达莱妮姐妹

6月17日,2020 |Unregistered Commenterkermit_the_frog

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